Jaguar CX75 Twin-Turbine Electric Supercar

[Incursus]

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[FUBAR]

I like it

what is that in the pic above? is that the "engine"??  if so thats so cool

[Incursus]

Quoting: FUBAR

what is that in the pic above? is that the "engine"?? if so thats so cool

The car is electric the twin gas turbines run generators to extend the cars range to 560miles  

[philoldsmobile]

does look good.

I can see that being the way all cars will go, especially if the turbines are developed to run on either methane (simple to generate) or renewable sources such as soy or corn oil.

[Incursus]

Quoting: philoldsmobile

I can see that being the way all cars will go, especially if the turbines are developed to run on either methane (simple to generate) or renewable sources such as soy or corn oil.

Indeed. I believe they run on Diesel at the moment.

[FUBAR]

Quoting: philoldsmobile

soy or corn oil.

Trouble is that competes with Food crops for growing space (and will win because it'll be more valuable) just like all other Bio-fuels would on a global scale.  And will likely result in a massive increase in the rate of de-forestation, particulary of Jungle areas like the Amazon.

So its renewable yes, but stable and really a good idea? no.

[philoldsmobile]

depends on its source - corn or veg oil is better as a fuel after a few heat cycles, as it breaks down the molecule chains. at the moment huge quantities of used cooking oil are scrapped every day.

vast areas of Africa could easily become massive sunflower 'ranches' creating employment and wealth, and reducing the middle east grip on the world.

the only reason its not happened yet is because there is no demand, with peak oil 10 years away, its gonna happen, and its gonna happen soon..

[Big Mouse]

Quoting: philoldsmobile

vast areas of Africa could easily become massive sunflower 'ranches' creating employment and wealth, and reducing the middle east grip on the world.

and you think the africans won't charge more for it than the arabs would?

negotiating with the saudi royal family for oil rights would be infinitely simpler than dealing with the likes of mugabe and the other despots in that flyridden shit hole of a continent

[EDGE]

Quoting: Big Mouse

negotiating with the saudi royal family for oil rights would be infinitely simpler than dealing with the likes of mugabe and the other despots in that flyridden shit hole of a continent

it would appear that there are only a few of us Ray, who are not affraid to tell it like it is !!

[philoldsmobile]

Quoting: Big Mouse

and you think the africans won't charge more for it than the arabs would?

negotiating with the saudi royal family for oil rights would be infinitely simpler than dealing with the likes of mugabe and the other despots in that flyridden shit hole of a continent

thing is, oil is where oil is, oil crops can be grown anywhere, making it harder for one small area t dictate its price. dont like the price of african sunflower oil, well, just go and buy it from australia then, aussies too greedy, then central and southern russia could be your shop of choice. all you need is a warm-ish climate, and plenty of open space.

you cant do that with oil

[EDGE]

Valid point :)

[F Body]

[Big Mouse]

Quoting: philoldsmobile

thing is, oil is where oil is, oil crops can be grown anywhere, making it harder for one small area t dictate its price. dont like the price of african sunflower oil, well, just go and buy it from australia then, aussies too greedy, then central and southern russia could be your shop of choice. all you need is a warm-ish climate, and plenty of open space.

you cant do that with oil

One of the first principles of marketing is that the market finds its own level; buying oil, gas or even coal is pretty much the same wherever you go because the suppliers know that if you don't pay their price, their competitors are going to charge you roughly the same anyway. There is always a certain amount of undercutting but that rarely filters down to the man on the street.

If a new source is introduced, it generally comes onto the market a little cheaper than current product (electrical items are usually the exact reverse of this principle) but as soon as take up reaches commercial levels the price goes up to match that of its competitors. What tax breaks are available to greener fuels usually gets cut once that happens, because governments see a drop in revenue from traditional fuels; as they need the funds to manage the country they have to recoup it somewhere else.

Have it grown in whatever country you like; the bottom line is the grower will want the going rate for growing it if he is to swap from food crops - profitable - to fuel crops - less profitable. And if you don't pay, someone else will.

Russia cut the supply of natural gas to EIGHT countries last year, not just a few hundred homes, afteer they refused to pay huge increases in the cost. I hardly think they are the best people to use to make your point,