BIVA / VOSA Chassis Modification Rules

Started by Cunning Plan, December 18, 2013, 04:27:36 AM

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Cunning Plan

There is currently a long discussion (read: argument) over on VZi at the moment about the rules and regulations regarding vehicle modifications.

There are a few bits that I didn't know and I thought that it might be of interest to others on here (RK especially).

http://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=963730\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.volkszone.co.uk/VZi/showthread.php?t=963730
1968 VW T2 Bay Bus (currently being restored and upgraded)
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ (modern classic daily driver)

Roadkill

Very interesting but fairly obvious, I suppose . . . What's odd is that, based on the 8-point system, my Camaro has a chance of passing, whereas, when I'm done the Cadillac will not !

There's two morals, here :

Firstly, as someone pointed out - make sure your modifications look good enough to be believed as stock . . . very difficult but possible.
I know I'll need to notch (or even completely replace) the front cross-member on the '58 to get the new motor in . . . the bonus is that it's MoT exempt so I really don't care !

Secondly - and most importantly - make sure you've got a "friendly" MoT tester who's not an ar$ehole.  If you don't have one, or can't find one, DO NOT modify your chassis or body shell.  Replace your shocks and springs, fine, but anymore than that and you may as well bend over and hand them the K-Y.

Andy

So what constitutes the chassis? K member?

I can understand why they've brought this ruling in, to stop people chopping away at what is likely structurally integral parts, but how does that work with people who may have welded up sills and the like?

Roadkill

Quoting: Andy
So what constitutes the chassis? K member?


I'd guess so.

From what I gather you can replace like-for-like.

Andy

Interesting, so tubular replacements I guess wouldn't fall under like for like.

Yeah, I guess you'll be find with the caddy as you'll never need to take it for an MOT again.

Roadkill

Quoting: Andy
Interesting, so tubular replacements I guess wouldn't fall under like for like.


No, definitely not.

Cunning Plan

The impression I get from that thread is that once your car has failed, you're fecked.

Surely they can just restore the vehicle back to stock and get it retested by BIVA?

Apart from the extra expense of testing, the time to re-work the modifications and the costs that goes with that, surely it is not as bad as if it fails the BIVA, the vehicle gets crushed there and then, which, is how the thread on VZi reads.


Quoting: Roadkill
the bonus is that it's MoT exempt so I really don't care !


1968 VW T2 Bay Bus (currently being restored and upgraded)
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ (modern classic daily driver)

Roadkill

Quoting: Cunning Plan
the vehicle gets crushed there and then, which, is how the thread on VZi reads.


That's extreme - I'd have guessed, maybe, they revoke the V5 and make it "unregistered" ie. illegal for use in the U.K but crush it ?


Cunning Plan

Okay, maybe I was exaggerating, it is just some people were saying that the guy who has been caught is ******. Then stating that you could perhaps justify loosing a 2k Baja Bug build, but not a 30k Splitty. That gives me the impression that you 'loose' the vehicle.

Quoting: Roadkill
they revoke the V5 and make it "unregistered" ie. illegal for use in the U.K


That sounds more likely.

I was thinking about the amount of 'points' my bus would have and I don't think it will qualify for many.

The suspension at the front is not stock, the engine will not be original along with the gearbox. However, it is still far from 'heavily' modified with changes such as tubbing, raised engine or a narrowed beam.
1968 VW T2 Bay Bus (currently being restored and upgraded)
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ (modern classic daily driver)

Andy

Where do you get a list of the points system?

art b

Quoting: Andy
Where do you get a list of the points system?


beaver.com
This forum needs, ''YOU'' posting,Not just reading ! :moon:

Roadkill

Quoting: Andy
Where do you get a list of the points system?


One of the guys on that thread listed them IIRC

Cunning Plan

Quoting: art b
beaver.com


That's the old website you idiot. It's pornmd.com now..



:nsfw:



Quoting: Andy
Where do you get a list of the points system?


Or this one:

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-altered-vehicles

1968 VW T2 Bay Bus (currently being restored and upgraded)
1999 Jeep Cherokee XJ (modern classic daily driver)

Roadkill

I think the Caddy will get 2 points . . maybe none - depending on what I do with the steering !