Caddy Eldo

[v8mad0]

Does anyone know if you can take out just the box on a Caddy Eldo coupe with the northstar motor in.

Cheers

[F Body]

Quoting: v8mad0

Does anyone know

Hardrock Camaro will be your man

[HardRockCamaro]

As far as I'm aware you need to drop the whole cradle (ie inc engine) then separate them.


Engine removal instructions (includes separation of engine from transmission):


Removal Procedure

Tools Required
J 37088-A Fuel Line Quick Connect Separator
J 39580 Universal Engine Support Table

Important: The preferred method of removing the engine assembly is through the bottom of the vehicle. If the necessary equipment is not available, use the alternate service removal procedure.

Disable the SIR. Refer to Supplemental Inflatable Restraint.
Recover the air-conditioning system. Refer to Heater Ventilation and Air Conditioning.
Remove the tower-to-tower brace.
Remove the air intake duct.
Remove the air cleaner assembly.
Remove the drain cooling system. Refer to Coolant Replacement in Engine Cooling.
Remove the radiator hose at the crossover.
Remove the engine cover.
Remove the radiator upper cover.
Remove the upper radiator hoses from the engine.
Remove the forward discriminating sensor from the radiator support and set it aside.
Remove the cooling fans. Refer to Cooling Fan Replacement in Engine Cooling.
Remove the transmission cooler lines from the radiator.
Remove the cruise control servo connections.
Remove the throttle and cruise control cables from the throttle body. Refer to Throttle Body Assembly Replacement
Remove the shift cable from the manual shift lever and the bracket.
Remove the vacuum hose from the brake booster.
Using J 37088-A disconnect the fuel inlet and return the lines.
Remove the coolant reservoir.
Remove the coolant hoses from the pipes at the front of the engine.
Remove the negative battery cable from the left cylinder head.
Caution: Unless directed otherwise, the ignition and start switch must be in the OFF or LOCK position, and all electrical loads must be OFF before servicing any electrical component. Disconnect the negative battery cable to prevent an electrical spark should a tool or equipment come in contact with an exposed electrical terminal. Failure to follow these precautions may result in personal injury and/or damage to the vehicle or its components.
Remove the positive battery cable from the battery and body retainer.
Remove the PCM case and the PCM.
Remove the right sound insulator.
Remove the engine wire harness electrical connector and the vacuum line under the instrument panel.
Remove the wire harness from the pass through at the cowl and pull the harness through the cowl.
Remove the three electrical connectors from the A/C line near the engine cowl.
Remove the vacuum hose from the "T" fitting near the engine harness pass through.
Remove the right and left front wheel speed sensor electrical connectors.
Remove the MAP sensor and the control motor near the master cylinder.
Remove the engine harness retainer from the brake booster.
Remove the two hoses from the power steering cooler.
Remove the engine harness from the hood fuse panel.
Remove the three relays from the lower radiator and the electrical connector from the ABS modulator.
Remove both tires and wheels.
Separate the drive axles from the steering knuckle. Refer to Drive Axle On-Vehicle Service.
Remove the post oxygen sensor heat shield.
Remove the post oxygen sensor wire harness connector from the body.
Remove the intermediate pipe hangers form the intermediate pipe. Refer to Engine Exhaust.
Remove the catalytic converter from the pipe. Refer to Engine Exhaust.
Remove the steering coupling from the steering gear. Refer to Steering Wheel and Column.
Remove the fuel line bundle from the transmission.
Remove the battery wire from the generator.
Remove the A/C manifold from the A/C compressor. Refer to Heater Ventilation and Air Conditioning.
Remove the ABS modulator from the frame and support.
Position the powertrain support table J 39580 under the frame and lower the vehicle onto the table.
Remove the six frame to body bolts.
Raise the body off the powertrain.
Remove the coolant crossover pipe from the engine.
Remove the Park/Neutral switch from the transmission.
Remove the engine wire harness.
Remove the exhaust "Y" pipe. Refer to Engine Exhaust.
Remove the accessory drive belt. Refer to Drive Belt Replacement .
Remove the power steering pump and hoses. Refer to Power Steering Gear and Pump.
Remove the generator and the bracket. Refer to Generator Replacement in Engine Electrical.
Remove the A/C compressor and the bracket. Refer to Heater Ventilation and Air Conditioning.
Remove the idler pulley.
Remove the right engine to transmission brace.
Remove the lower engine to the transmission brace.
Remove the left engine to the transmission brace.
Attach the engine lift to the engine.
Remove the left engine mount and bracket.
Remove the left exhaust manifold. Refer to Exhaust Manifold Replacement .
Remove the flywheel inspection cover.
Remove the torque converter from the flywheel.
Remove the right engine mount bracket from the engine.
Remove the transmission (bell housing) to engine bolts.
Remove the engine from the transmission and frame assembly.
Remove the cross under pipe, EGR.
Remove the right exhaust manifold. Refer to Exhaust Manifold Replacement .



Installation Procedure

Install the right exhaust manifold. Refer to Exhaust Manifold Replacement .
Install the cross under pipe, EGR.
Install the engine to transmission and frame assembly.
Install four transmission (bell housing) to engine bolts.
Tighten
Tighten the bolts to 75 N·m (55 lb ft).
Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.
Install the right engine mount bracket to the engine.
Install the torque converter to the flywheel.
Tighten
Tighten the bolts to 47 N·m (35 lb ft).
Install the flywheel inspection cover.
Install the left exhaust manifold. Refer to Exhaust Manifold Replacement .
Install the left engine mount and bracket.
Disconnect the engine lift from the engine.
Install the left engine to the transmission brace.
Lower the engine to the transmission brace.
Install the right side engine to the transmission brace.
Install the right side coolant pipes to the engine.
Install the power steering lines to the pump and the pump to the engine. Refer to Power Steering Gear and Pump.
Install the idler pulley.
Tighten
Tighten the bolts to 50 N·m (37 lb ft).
Install the A/C compressor and the brackets to the engine. Refer to Heater Ventilation and Air Conditioning.
Install the generator and bracket to the engine. Refer to Generator Replacement in Engine Electrical.
Install the power steering pump pulley. Refer to Power Steering Gear and Pump.
Install the accessory drive belt. Refer to Drive Belt Replacement .
Install the exhaust manifold rear pipe.
Install the engine wire harness.
Install the Park/Neutral switch and bracket to the transmission. Refer to Automatic Transmission General Information for adjustment.
Install the coolant crossover pipe.
Position the powertrain assembly under the body.
Lower the body onto the powertrain assembly.
Install the frame to body bolts.
Tighten
Tighten the bolts to 100 N·m (74 lb ft).
Install the ABS modulator to the frame.
Install the A/C manifold to the A/C compressor. Refer to Heater, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning..
Install the battery wire to the generator.
Install the fuel line bundle to the transmission.
Install the steering coupling to the steering gear. Refer to Steering Wheel and Column.
Install the catalytic converter to the front pipe. Refer to Engine Exhaust.
Install the intermediate pipe hangers to the intermediate pipe.
Install the post converter oxygen sensor electrical connection.
Install the post converter oxygen sensor heat shield.
Install the drive axle to the hubs. Refer to Drive Axle On-Vehicle Service.
Install the tie rods.
Install the height sensor links.
Install the stabilizer shaft links. Refer to Front Suspension.
Install the tire and the wheels.
Tighten
Tighten the wheel nuts to 140 N·m (100 lb ft).
Lower the vehicle.
Install three relays to the radiator support.
Install two hoses to the power steering cooler.
Install the engine harness to under the hood fuse panel.
Install the engine harness retainer to the brake booster.
Install the engine harness left front wheel speed sensor, cruise control motor and MAP sensor electrical connector near the master cylinder.
Install the right front wheel speed sensor electrical connector.
Install the vacuum hose to the "T" fitting near the engine harness pass through.
Connect the three electrical connections to the A/C line near the cowl.
Push the engine wire harness through the cowl and attach pass through to the cowl.
Connect the two engine wire harness electrical connection and vacuum line under the I/P.
Install the right sound insulator.
Install the PCM case, the PCM and the electrical connection.
Connect the positive battery cable to the battery and body retainer.
Connect the negative battery cable to the left cylinder head.
Install the coolant hoses to the pipes at the front of the engine.
Install the coolant reservoir, hoses and electrical connector.
Install the fuel lines to the fuel rail.
Install the vacuum hose to the brake booster.
install the shift cable to the manual shift lever and bracket.
Install the throttle and cruise cables to the throttle body.
Install the cooling fans. Refer to Engine Cooling.
Connect the transmission cooler lines to the radiator.
Install the forward discriminating sensor to the radiator support.
Install the upper and lower radiator hoses.
Install the engine mount struts and adjust to zero preload. Refer to Engine Mount Strut Repl

[F Body]

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

Removal Procedure

What do you do after Lunch

[v8mad0]

Wow thats prob why the quote was so dear

Thanks for that

[HardRockCamaro]

What was the quote for ad how much?

I've heard £3,000 - £3,500 all-in for head gasket replacement (hopefully including the important timesert process).

I'd be curious to know what transmission work comes to...

[v8mad0]

The car's forsale due to it needing a new torque converter shaft seal. This is what he is thinking it is, and has been quoted £1,600

Do the heads not come off with the engine iin then?

[HardRockCamaro]

Not as far as I'm aware.

You have to drop it to get the clearance to remove the heads due to it being transverse.


What are the symptoms of needing this seal?

[v8mad0]

Quoting: HardRockCamaro

What are the symptoms of needing this seal?

Its peeing out ATF everywhere.

[HardRockCamaro]

Ah...

[Fieldy]

Quoting: v8mad0

Its peeing out ATF everywhere.

That's a symptom if ever i read one!

[philoldsmobile]

my concern would be finding a garage with enough specialist knowledge to do the job properly - the northstar is not a simple engine, and i highly doubt the box is either.

[v8mad0]

Quoting: philoldsmobile

my concern would be finding a garage with enough specialist knowledge to do the job

If and its a pretty big if at the moe I was to get the Caddy Mick at Georgeham will be doing it.