Roadkill's 1983 Chevy Z28 - (Work Starts on Page 5)

Started by Roadkill, October 18, 2005, 01:33:36 PM

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Roadkill

Thought I'd put a positive update on here . . .

The new air cleaner lid is on route to Carl's - as is the new Speedo (due for delivery tomorrow).

I've got the indicator lights for the dashboard and some more wrinkle paint but will do a few more trials before painting the dash-plate itself.

I'm hoping to shuffle the Z28 onto the driveway this weekend and get the front calipers and pads on, then start finishing the brake lines . . . .

ianjpage

Quoting: Roadkill

I'm hoping to shuffle the Z28 onto the driveway this weekend and get the front calipers and pads on, then start finishing the brake lines . . . .


Gator

Hmmmm that hood thing is worrying considering my plans

Roadkill


Rocky

If your unhappy with the bonnet mate i don't know if you can get it back to me but i will give your money back. I must admit i didn't check it over thoroughly as none of the car was damaged and it fitted ok. i know the wings were good as i have fitted them to another car after bare metaling them. I know it had a bit of filler in it but didn't realise it was that bad. You should have emailed me straight away when you found out i dont want you to feel your out of pocket.

mike

This car was purchased by me as a breaker i stripped most of the car down
The bonnet looked ok to me.
Anyway if you had contacted me or rocky straight away instead of slagging people off.
Anyway
Richard was only the go between for me
I have told him to give you money back I have no issues with that.

Rocky

The thing im annoyed about is it seems its implied that i have "bodged" the bonnet myself and considering that i sold it on behalf of someone why would i waste my own time doing it.
Also IF i had repaired it i would have said before selling it because you wouldnt have been able to tell it had been repaired by me anyway.

Roadkill

I've replied to your email, Mike.

I've also reitterated that the blame was mine.

It was my fault I didn't check it over more thoroughly but, again, I'm very surprised the issue wasn't picked up earlier as it was immediately apparent to me.



As for "slagging off" - I think you'll find I was slagging the bonnet off (which I did extensively) but never slagged Rocky off . . . .

Before I collected it I (obviously) asked what the condition was like and asked about dents / rust (we know they're prone to rust on the front edge) . . . . and was told that the lacquer was flaking in places and that it's had the front edge treated and primed.  That was all - so I'd assumed that someone had looked it over . . . As I say, I shouldn't have assumed anything but I thought the price was premium and I'd hoped the description was accurate.

I'll admit, I'm utterly p!ssed off with the thing . . . It cost me £30, IIRC, for us to pick the thing up in Ian's truck . . . I needed space and moved it to the barn we rent in Brackley at the weekend (more time) now to get it back it'll cost another £30-£40 in fuel which I just don't have at the moment so it's going to have to sit where it is for now . . . .

Rocky

Normally a bonnet would be £150-£200 for a mint one. I had a quick look over it and told you what i saw, If the bonnet was immediatly apparent you wouldnt have taken it? And as for slagging me off directly i wouldnt go that far but it doesnt put me in a good light to people who dont know my work.

Gator

come on people sort this out its a hood not a bonnet

Roadkill

Quoting: Rocky
Normally a bonnet would be £150-£200 for a mint one


Sorry.  I don't believe that at all.  Maybe "brand new" still in the box but no second-hand hood should cost that - not for a run-of-the-mill type.

Quoting: Rocky
If the bonnet was immediatly apparent you wouldnt have taken it


But I don't have your "professional eye".  
I'm not a bodywork man or panel beater . . . . merely a precision engineer.

I know my work.  I don't claim to know others hence the assumptions I made on its condition based on your professional description.

I said - if you read the post thoroughly, of course - that the issue was immediately apparent, yes, not only to me but to anyone who saw it once it was fitted to my Camaro - hence :

Quoting: Roadkill
Not easily apparent off of the car - I'm not a professional of course (although the rough filler / sanding marks and dusting of grey primer should've given it away, really), but compare it to the smooth, clean lines of my Z28's front fenders and, even in the dim evening light, it was immediately obvious.


. . . . I'll admit that off of the car it would have been harder to see but that bonnet originally came attached to another car . . . I'd expect anyone who'd seen that one or had any dealings with it at all would have noticed it, too - while it was attached to that car . . . especially as the area in question was plastered in grey primer . . . it should have set alarm bells ringing.

Quoting: Rocky
it doesnt put me in a good light to people who dont know my work.


Maybe not.  But I'm only discribing the issues as they are.  I'm not pointing fingers at you - quite the opposite as my posts here and email to Mike support.

There's many on this forum who've had dealings with you and have praised you highly . . . . . I'm not disputing them or their opinions - again, just calling it as I see it.

I apologise if someone, somewhere has read into my posts and somehow it has tarnished your reputation.

People see what they want to see and read into things how they want . . . . That's people all over and forums breed that.

The facts remain the same :
 
i) I was described a bonnet that had nothing but minor defects.  
ii) I feel I paid good money for the bonnet described.  
iii) The bonnet wasn't as per description.
iv) The bonnet was found to be utter $hit.
v) I posted said findings on a project thread dedicated to my Z28.
vi) I've ALWAYS posted such information / issues / notes on this thread.
vii) I will continue to post such relavant information regarding progress and / or lack of progress regarding my Z28 on this thread.
viii) I made it clear that the blame was mine.
ix) Having blamed myself I did NOT request a refund.
x) Having considered the costs in transporting the bonnet back I DO NOT require a refund.
xi) In not requesting nor requiring a refund I consider the case closed.

and finally . . .

If people are still offended by these facts then they can suck my ar$e because I'm very, very sorry but I'm not here to stroke peoples egos, I'm affraid.

If I f*ck up - feel free to call me on it, I won't be offended.

If someone else f*cks up - I don't expect them to get all p!ssy if I call them on it.  Nobody's perfect.  $hit happens and all that.

I was going to post a small update but I think I'll just go to bed, now, instead.

ianjpage


Titsy

No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano...

Roadkill

Quoting: ianjpage
Deano - pics that i took for you are here


Ta.

Quoting: Titsy
No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano...


Noted, Ta.

O.K.  Update.  Yes, an update . . .

In between doing the garage and various other things I did spend a few hours doing odds and sods on the Z28 today . . .

Firstly the paint for the prop is ordered and will be in for Firday so will be one of the next jobs . . .

But today I got the re-conned calipers back on (these have been sitting around for well over a year, now) and also got the new pads in.  I did have to touch up the calipers in places but they look as good as new, now (or better) plus the VHT paint is a close match to the Mazda Colorado Red, too.

The discs really need to see some use, though !!!



Another job was the dash-cluster-plate-thingy . . .

I'd brought a "ready-made" ally plate from a guy on U.S eBay and, to be blunt, it was absolute sh!t . . . but with an hours' worth of filing . . another hour of marking out, drilling and counter sinking and then half an hour of wet and drying it looked like this, complete with dash indicator holes :



It's now been sprayed with VHT wrinkle black paint and and should be ready to have the gauges fitted to it within a day or so . . . .


ianjpage


F Body

Quoting: Titsy
No joy on the coolant flow diagram i'm affraid Deano..


Is this any good



Not that you need heater hoses



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Roadkill

Quoting: F Body
Not that you need heater hoses


Ahh, but I need to know which one to connect to which.

Hmm, mine's a '93 . . . . and does look a little different to that . . . .

It's a start, though.

UPDATE.

Although mainly working on the garage last night I did manage to spend 45 minutes or so assembling the new dash gauge plate.

Five out of the six clocks are in (the other is with Carl, atm) and all of the indicator lights are in and fixed.

I took some pictures (to follow) but must admit it looks better in the "flesh".



I'll be working on the garage entirely tonight and probably tomorrow but then hope to dedicate pretty-much the entire weekend to the Z28.


Roadkill





This one'll be handy, too - not exactly the same but similair to the '93.


Roadkill

Quoting: Roadkill
I did manage to spend 45 minutes or so assembling the new dash gauge plate.

Five out of the six clocks are in (the other is with Carl, atm) and all of the indicator lights are in and fixed.

I took some pictures (to follow) but must admit it looks better in the "flesh".


Pictures :

FYI - The paint hadn't fully cured at this point so was still a tad patchy around the edges . . . this has now evened out nicely.





Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish - highly recommended by the way - but don't paint the item vertical as the can says !

I'd certainly recommend spending £10 on the VHT stuff over spending £5 on the Hycote stuff as I could not duplicate the Hycote finish a second time . . . I tried every combination of exposure to heat for varying times but everytime the results were utterly random !!

On the other hand the VHT stuff was literally three coats, leave to dry and it's done.  Simples !!


ianjpage



Roadkill

Cheers, Guys.

Info dump :

Comp Cams 503 - 918 Beehives (.600 max lift) reqd, Stock gears O.K.

Comp Cams 306 - 918 Beehives (.600 max lift), 4.10+ gearing, LT headers ALL reqd.

Titsy

Quoting: Roadkill
Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish



Nice job...

F Body

Quoting: Roadkill
Close-up of the VHT wrinkle finish



That looks almost pornograhic