Astro Wiring

[ianjpage]

Well those of you at the meet yesterday (and Phil / Dean) may well heard me talking about a crappy alarm installl / removal on the 'Stro...well after ripping it out yesterday, did some googling today...

Its a Silencer 5900P alarm system, well most of it - there should be a LED / Key insert module as well - i looked at the bottom of the dash fascia panel - 2 nice little holes where it would have been fitted - so it defo had an alarm and was majorly butchered when ripped out!

So far so good today - didn't cut out or antyhing, but i'll hold off saying fixed until a week or so...give it chance!!

(Cheers to phil & dean for advice / thoughts on sat!)

[philoldsmobile]

its good you found something definatley wrong, alarms can be such a pain in the butt, hopefully its all good, as the rest of the van seemed pretty pukka!

[ianjpage]

yeah lets hoep - it did have a cough on the way to work today, so not sure if there still some more else where....couldn't see anything though....

Might get under there this w/end and have a clean of the fuel pump/gauge wiring connector and see fi that helps...

[Roadkill]

Fingers crossed . . .

[art b]

i thought you were sellin the old van...

[ianjpage]

Quoting: art b

i thought you were sellin the old van...

I am have sold it (jsut needs collecting) hence this topic having the title of ASTRO wiring not SAFARI wiring hehe ..

Have got me a replacement Chevy Astro to replace the GMC - its exactly the same bar its blue and got a chevy badge on the front!!!

[art b]

furry muff...why didnt i realise....

[ianjpage]

lol

[ianjpage]

well its better now but still not sorted..

Removing the alarm and also cleaning all the connectors / contacts on the fuel pump wiring has made it alot better,   rather than dying and then not being able to restart, it now either "coughs" as i drive (cuts out totally then re-fires right away) or it conks out when i at lights / roundabout but will restart first turn of they key.....

On the drive to/frmo work it will cough once at least, posibly twice......

Anyone have any ideas of what else i can check - the only thing i can thnk of is the connectors on the top of the pump  assemly (in top of tank)....

[Incursus]

Plugs and Plug leads?

Have a look in the dark.

[ianjpage]

Quoting: Incursus

Plugs and Plug leads?

Have a look in the dark.

Both been replaced with brand new parts......as have a number of parts

also it is very very inconsistant...there doesn't seem to be a comon situation when it does it!

[Incursus]

Injectors?

[ianjpage]

Quoting: Incursus

Injectors?

Hmm possible i spose, but i'd think they be more inclined to misfire rather than cut the whole engine (which is effectively whats happening - its like you have stoped the whole engine)...thats why i am still thinking wiring related to the fuel system - as i don't get any check gauges / check engine light either

[ianjpage]

also have put a bottle of injector cleaner through it - no difference

[Roadkill]

As you say - pump connectors, maybe ?

[Incursus]

Ignition coil or alternator?  Would probably be more consistent...

[a91_formula]

Have you tried removing and cleaning the EGR Ian?

[ianjpage]

Quoting: Roadkill

As you say - pump connectors, maybe ?

Yeah bugger of a job though tank out....

Quoting: Incursus

Ignition coil

New one fitted with leads, cap, rotor and plugs...

Quoting: Incursus

alternator

Hmm it doesn't seem to loose power as such there is no drop in voltage when it does it - just literrally stops the engine running dead...

Quoting: a91_formula

Have you tried removing and cleaning the EGR Ian?

Hmm not as yet (bugger to get to as im sure you know!) but would that really cause the symptoms?

[a91_formula]

Quoting: ianjpage

Quoting: a91_formula

Have you tried removing and cleaning the EGR Ian?


Hmm not as yet (bugger to get to as im sure you know!) but would that really cause the symptoms?

Difficult to say Ian, but a stuck or faulty EGR could easily cause the engine to stumble and die at idle and also cough whilst driving as we found out with our first Astro!  It's not that hard to get to and probably worth a look just to eliminate.

[ianjpage]

Hmm true, will have a check at the weekend then!

[a91_formula]

[Titsy]

Quoting: ianjpage

New one fitted with leads, cap, rotor and plugs...

were they gapped correctly?

Quoting: a91_formula

Difficult to say Ian, but a stuck or faulty EGR could easily cause the engine to stumble and die at idle and also cough whilst driving as we found out with our first Astro! It's not that hard to get to and probably worth a look just to eliminate.

Could be, but that should throw an SES code.... Does the SES light come on with the ignition bulb test, or has it been removed?

[ianjpage]

Quoting: Titsy

Quoting: ianjpage

New one fitted with leads, cap, rotor and plugs...


were they gapped correctly?

PLatinum plugs which (according to the book) don't need gapping!

Quoting: Titsy

Could be, but that should throw an SES code.... Does the SES light come on with the ignition bulb test, or has it been removed?

Funnily enough it didn't coem on at all, checked and bulb had blown so fitted new one and it does what it should - comes on with initial turn of key (when they all do) then goes & stays off...so no error codes i can see....

[philoldsmobile]

Quoting: Titsy

Could be, but that should throw an SES code..

undoubtedly...

plugs would cause a misfire, especially at idle, but wouldn't cause a sudden cut.

even fuel pump will cause a stumble momentarily before it dies, as the fuel pressure in the lines would run the engine for a moment after the pump stopped (probably less than a second)
if its just cutting out dead, its loosing power to the ignition. hall sensor in the distributor? could cause exactly these symptoms...

[ianjpage]

hmm possibly - fairly easy to check - i can prob pull the cover off the engine bay and wiggle things whilst it running and see....