Nice Cheap Desktop PC

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FUBAR

#25
October 18, 2010, 11:24:59 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
What about O/S - 'cos I f*cking hate Vista . . . I'm guessing XP is a bit too Oldskool, now ?


Windows 7.

But if you do you'll definately need more than 2GB RAM.


I personally would get one of these
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515

(they were both on offer @ £105 last night )

as I honestly think you'll see a big performance increase over the cheaper card & i'm not just saying that cos its more expensive, is has over 8x the processing cores of the cheaper one which means a lot more bandwidth on the card for higher GFX options & its generally faster overall.

Also if you are going to buy more RAM make sure its the same type as comes with the bundle... it will be a lot happier that way.
It's the time that we kill that keeps us alive...

Roadkill

#26
October 18, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
Quoting: FUBAR
Also if you are going to buy more RAM make sure its the same type as comes with the bundle... it will be a lot happier that way.


Yeah - guessed that - I've heard of RAM "conflicts" before.

So.  Revised :

Quoting: Incursus
http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-amd-performance-bundle--includes-m4a78lt-m-motherboard--amd-phenom-ii-x2-560-be---2gb-ddr3-memory--73GY.html


For £155

Quoting: FUBAR
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515


For £112

Memory . . . . I can't seem to find the same sticks on dabs on their own . . .

Incursus

#27
October 18, 2010, 12:18:17 PM
Quoting: Roadkill
I can't seem to find the same sticks on dabs on their own . .

Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus
Bare in mind it only comes with 2GB RAM. I just bought another 2GB for a smidgen under £40.


Hmm - good point. Worth adding for £40


Yeah odd that.  I found mine on Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product

Could a saved on shipping if I had know...ahh well

Gonna feel left behind if I don't buy a GFX card now

Incursus

#28
October 18, 2010, 12:20:31 PM
Quoting: FUBAR
(they were both on offer @ £105 last night )

Still is....

Also fill this in...

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp


Made a few assumptions but  

Minimum PSU Wattage:   232 W

Recommended
PSU Wattage: 282W

No worries.

Incursus

#29
October 19, 2010, 05:00:52 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515


For £112

Quoting: Incursus
Gonna feel left behind if I don't buy a GFX card now


HD huh?
So if I get a Blu Ray player for the PC I can used it to play Blu Rays on the telly?

Roadkill

#30
October 19, 2010, 05:08:27 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah odd that. I found mine on Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product


That exactly the same stuff as in that bundle, then - looks and reads the same to me but what do I know !?

Incursus

#31
October 19, 2010, 05:43:35 AM
Quoting: Incursus
HD huh?
So if I get a Blu Ray player for the PC I can used it to play Blu Rays on the telly?


Looks like my 8600GT can do 1080i anyway


Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus
Yeah odd that. I found mine on Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MU9PHY/ref=oss_product


That exactly the same stuff as in that bundle, then - looks and reads the same to me but what do I know !?


Same part number but will find out when it turns up

ianjpage

#32
October 19, 2010, 06:24:25 AM
CPU. Mobo and RAM combo looks good - one thing to check is what teh memory is - 1X2 or 2X1 as will depend on what you get and how many sticks the mobo can handle in terms of what you need to do to upg...

Gfx card is very good, although do you need one that high spec (HD!) etc...might be cheaper alternative that isn't hd ....just a thought....

Roadkill

#33
October 19, 2010, 06:52:32 AM
Come on, then . . . give me a shopping list . . . I obviously can't tackle such matters on my own.

Incursus

#34
October 19, 2010, 06:54:49 AM
RAM is 1  x 2GB  4 slots on the motherboard.

FUBAR

#35
October 19, 2010, 07:07:39 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-122-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1515


For £112
Quoting: Incursus
Gonna feel left behind if I don't buy a GFX card now

HD huh?  
So if I get a Blu Ray player for the PC I can used it to play Blu Rays on the telly?


Yes
It's the time that we kill that keeps us alive...

Roadkill

#37
October 19, 2010, 09:46:19 AM
Quoting: ianjpage
memory


Thought it best to stick to same type stuff - or is that close enough . . . . ?

As I'm only a PSU and a case away from a complete new build I'm currently looking at cases on eBay.

They seem silly cheap - albeit they have no PSU's - but even so . . . . . . . I'll post a couple up and see what people think.

Roadkill

#38
October 19, 2010, 09:58:23 AM
Cases:

This one only apprears to have one fan - no PSU



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envizage-E-3391-Black-Blue-ATX-Gaming-PC-Tower-Case-/360283182222?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e28d148e\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envizage-E-3391-Black-Blue-ATX-Gaming-PC-Tower-Case-/360283182222?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e28d148e

This one has a 500W PSU but no fans by the looks



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EZCool-N-630D-4-Bay-Black-Silver-ATX-PC-Case-500W-PSU-/360310659095?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e4305817\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/EZCool-N-630D-4-Bay-Black-Silver-ATX-PC-Case-500W-PSU-/360310659095?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e4305817

No PSU, no fans :



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shiny-Piano-Black-Mid-Tower-Case-Colour-LCD-/270635606691?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item3f0323a2a3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Shiny-Piano-Black-Mid-Tower-Case-Colour-LCD-/270635606691?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item3f0323a2a3

This one is PIMPIN ! - No mention about cooling, though.



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envizage-E-3350-Black-Blue-ATX-Gaming-PC-Tower-Case-/360283182221?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e28d148d\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Envizage-E-3350-Black-Blue-ATX-Gaming-PC-Tower-Case-/360283182221?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item53e28d148d

This one looks good - It's got a fan borrowed from a Jumbo Jet, no PSU



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-Mid-Tower-Gaming-Case-/300457030400?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item45f4a27300\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-Mid-Tower-Gaming-Case-/300457030400?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item45f4a27300

Input ???

ianjpage

#39
October 19, 2010, 10:40:55 AM
Quoting: Roadkill

Thought it best to stick to same type stuff - or is that close enough . . .


Its a different make but from what i can see they are both DDR3 1333Mhz CAS9 which is what matters.

RE the cases - its down to personal choice really - look for something that either has good cooling or has the fixings for good fans, PSU is indifferent - if it don't come with one buy one it really doesn't matter too much case wise - PSU - just get something with at least 500w to be safe

Incursus

#40
October 19, 2010, 10:51:20 AM
Quoting: ianjpage
Quoting: Roadkill

Thought it best to stick to same type stuff - or is that close enough . . .


Its a different make but from what i can see they are both DDR3 1333Mhz CAS9 which is what matters.


Should be fine.  I just went for exactly the same as I have had problems before.  Though I think Motherboards are a little more tolerant these day

RE: Case.  Why bother tbh....isn't your case hidden away anyway?
and if your PSU is 400W or more then I really wouldn't worry.
I had to get a PSU as mine was suspect.

Roadkill

#41
October 19, 2010, 11:17:09 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Case. Why bother tbh....isn't your case hidden away anyway?


Well . . . . .

It's going to cost around £300 for a rebuild or about £345 for a complete NEW build . . . as my old stuff in my existing case is (financially) worthless  - it makes sense to me spending an extra £40-odd on a new case and new PSU to then keep my old one as a useable spare.



Also - on a sidenote - I don't think I've EVER had a totally new machine, either.

Incursus

#42
October 19, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
Fair enough I didn't spend as much and £45 is a lot of money to me

Roadkill

#43
October 19, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Fair enough I didn't spend as much and £45 is a lot of money to me


Plus your old stuff is "sell-able" - mine certainly isn't.

From the list of 5 above number "4" is definately my favourite

Gonna fire a question off re fans I think . . .

Incursus

#44
October 19, 2010, 01:54:04 PM
I just have the 80mm fan on the back of the case.  I don't think multi core processor get quite as hot as the non.  Saying that my case fan isn't even connected and the CPU (fan runs fairly low)  will keep an eye on it for the LAN though as I've not stressed the system with games yet.

Edit:  number 4 is cool

Wonder if they will combine shipping...

Roadkill

#45
October 20, 2010, 03:23:34 AM
Quoting: Incursus
Edit: number 4 is cool  

Wonder if they will combine shipping...


Want me to ask ?

Roadkill

#46
October 20, 2010, 03:28:47 AM
Quoting: Incursus
I just have the 80mm fan on the back of the case


So you think it's not worth worrying about ?

Worse case senario I suppose I can pop down to PissyWorld and grab a fan from there ??

I'm assuming, also, that that case it compatible with the MoBo in that bundle ?

Roadkill

#48
October 20, 2010, 03:31:59 AM
O.K.

So I've found MoBo, GFX card, RAM, Hard Drive and a case.

Does someone want to find me a suitable PSU . . . . what else do I need - DVD-type drive ?

Wireless card for interweb ?

Incursus

#49
October 20, 2010, 03:32:27 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: Incursus
I just have the 80mm fan on the back of the case


So you think it's not worth worrying about ?

Worse case senario I suppose I can pop down to PissyWorld and grab a fan from there ??

I'm assuming, also, that that case it compatible with the MoBo in that bundle ?


Case is ATX so will be fine.

As for the fan.  you will be running a more powerful GFX card so may get hotter and as I say i've not stressed mine.

At worst you can take the side off the case if it gets hot.
Don't you have fans on your current case?
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