Shocks/struts for the Camaro - Recomendations ?

Started by Roadkill, March 13, 2007, 06:25:37 AM

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55starchief

#1
March 13, 2007, 06:39:36 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Do I really need adjustable ones ?


depends what you plan on doing with the car, personaly i would fit adjustables if you have the money as you can tweek the handling of the car the way you want rather than being stuck with a fixed setting

EDGE

#2
March 13, 2007, 06:56:30 AM
remeber though, the manufacturers have spent a lot of time getting the shocks right, if you adjust them with no clue of what you're doing you're only going to make it worse....

Roadkill

#3
March 13, 2007, 06:59:42 AM
Basically $359 = £185 for the set of adjustables.

JWR wanted £180 for standard fronts alone and USless wanted £190+vat for fronts alone !!!

If I can justify the adjustables I buy them . . .

Pod

#4
March 13, 2007, 07:05:47 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Do I really need adjustable ones ?


If you have to ask, I'm guessing no.

Would you notice the difference if they were adjusted?
I'm sure you'd notice the cash savings...

For that matter, would you ever be bothered to adjust them at all?

Pod

#5
March 13, 2007, 07:07:52 AM
I bought a set of non-adjustable Tokico shocks from US ebay. Saved a fortune over any quote for shocks over here.

55starchief

#6
March 13, 2007, 07:14:08 AM
Quoting: Pod
Would you notice the difference if they were adjusted?
I'm sure you'd notice the cash savings...

For that matter, would you ever be bothered to adjust them at all?



Yes and yes. I had adjustables on my 9000 and after some adjustment got the car to a point where the tyres became the weakest link in the handling which was solved by droppijng a profile and going wider from a 195/65 15 to a 205/55 15. From memory i had a couple of turns on the front and a single turn on the back

Pod

#8
March 13, 2007, 07:36:31 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
the ultimate in handling


Maybe, but then you are looking at $550+shipping etc for just the rear shocks.
Compare that to $119 for a set of four normal ones. Yes, coilovers are better, but it depends on the budget primarily, and what the car will be used for afterwards.

55starchief

#9
March 13, 2007, 07:39:50 AM
Quoting: Pod

Maybe, but then you are looking at $550+shipping etc for just the rear shocks.
Compare that to $119 for a set of four normal ones. Yes, coilovers are better, but it depends on the budget primarily, and what the car will be used for afterwards.




that includes the rear springs which he was going to change as well for lowered

Roadkill

#10
March 13, 2007, 07:45:23 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
that includes the rear springs which he was going to change as well for lowered


Already got the springs so the coilovers are a no-no.

Quoting: Pod
For that matter, would you ever be bothered to adjust them at all?


Good point - short-term, probably not . . . but If I'm doing all this then long-term probably yes.

HardRockCamaro

#11
March 13, 2007, 08:24:12 AM
I'd go with Tokico or Bilstein if you can afford them.

As for adjustables, personally, I don't think it's worth it for most people.
Most people set them to medium (5) and fit them.
As adjusting them often involves removing them hardly anybody bothers.

Plus, the adjustment point is a place where they can leak.



If you're really serious about it (ie you're gonna buy the right springs and bushes and other tubular bits) then fair enough otherwise I'd keep the money and spend it on something else as the generic setting of a non adjustable unit is good enough for most people.

The IROC with it's non adjustable standard Bilsteins was awarded the best handling car in america in the 80s.

If the car is largly stock in weight and so on then there's not much point deviating.

Roadkill

#12
March 13, 2007, 08:36:30 AM
Quoting: HardRockCamaro
If you're really serious about it (ie you're gonna buy the right springs and bushes and other tubular bits) then fair


Got a set of Eibach springs, now.

Tower brace and Adjustable Panhard is next . . . .

Poly bushing is penciled in for next year.

Roadkill

#15
March 13, 2007, 08:44:31 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
Personaly i wouldnt touch bilsteins nowdays i would go with QA1's


They look the Muts' . . . . . But I want to keep it under $500.

Roadkill

#18
March 13, 2007, 08:54:47 AM
Have you fitted yours, yet ?

Pod

#19
March 13, 2007, 11:07:39 AM
Yep, did them a while back with new springs at the same time.
I changed quite a few things at the same time, so it's difficult to know which parts made the most difference.

Roadkill

#20
March 13, 2007, 11:48:11 AM


For the (relatively) little extra cost - I think I'll look at adjustables . . .

Long term I think it's the way I'll want to go . . .

So.  

Question is . . . what ones ?

55starchief

#21
March 13, 2007, 12:13:47 PM
Quoting: Roadkill
Question is . . . what ones ?


try and get something thats top adjustable on the front


Koni list your car as 8741-1030sport and 30-1265sport so it might be worth calling them up and see what their price is

forget koni they are out of your budget with the fronts at £220+VAT each and the rears at £98+VAT each

Roadkill

#22
March 13, 2007, 12:29:03 PM
Originally I was allowing $300 . . then $400 . . . then . . .



But I really must keep it below $500 . . . !

Roadkill

#23
March 13, 2007, 12:31:57 PM
Tokico Illumina

Now, thanks to Tokico Illumina shocks and struts, changing your suspension firmness is as easy as adjusting your watch. Tokico Illumina shocks and struts feature the same high-end damping technology that goes into each Tokico shock, with precision valves, gas charging, and dual-tube construction. But then the Tokico Illumina goes one step further. An adjustment rod runs through the Tokico Illumina shock or strut body to a small shutter valve that controls oil flow. The other end of the rod pokes through the top of the Tokico Illumina shock or strut rod and contains a dial indicator and screwdriver slot. To change the damping settings on your Tokico Illumina shocks, you simply rotate the adjustment rod one click at a time. There's a tactile detent so you know exactly how far you've adjusted your Tokico Illumina shocks and struts, which is important if you're trying to preserve a certain setup. And that's all that's involved. Tokico Illumina shocks and struts make it incredibly easy to set your car up for the track one day, then change it back to a comfortable interstate setting the next day for the ride home. Endurance isn't affected by the adjustment system, and the Tokico Illumina is already set up for baseline street performance, so you're starting with a high-performance shock before you ever make a single adjustment. Discover the fun of tuning your own vehicle suspension with the Tokico Illumina line of shocks and struts.

HardRockCamaro

#24
March 13, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
Those (Tokiko Illumia) are the ones I intend to buy.

They are used by a lot of road race teams.

Either that or I will go with fixed Bilsteins.
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