Ryan's Camaro Project Thread...

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Roadkill

#600
May 30, 2006, 10:30:34 AM
Quoting: FUBAR
1stly a Hatch Motor


Wouldn't have though much more then £30.

Quoting: FUBAR
New Air Dam


Does that one fit your car ?

Quoting: FUBAR
Wundaba!


I think this'll go for more than it's worth.  I also don't think this'll be helpful to you - certainly not yet.
EDIT - I'd go for a Strut (tower) brace first of all.

Quoting: FUBAR
Control Arms


These look more like traction bars. (?)  Again, a tad overkill for your car at the moment.
EDIT - SFC's would be the first step . . .

55starchief

#601
May 30, 2006, 10:35:53 AM
Dont think you need any of the HD stuff mate unless your gonna swap that low power motor for something around 350+hp

FUBAR

#602
May 30, 2006, 10:35:54 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
1stly a Hatch Motor

Wouldn't have though much more then £30.  




Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
New Air Dam

Does that one fit your car ?


Looks the same... although mine doesn't have the 2 curved sections on the right of the pic.
It's the time that we kill that keeps us alive...

55starchief

#603
May 30, 2006, 10:36:53 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
These look more like traction bars. (?) Again, a tad overkill for your car at the moment.



No they are the rear arms that hold the axle in place, same as on little mouse

FUBAR

#604
May 30, 2006, 10:41:57 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
Quoting: FUBAR
Wundaba!

I think this'll go for more than it's worth. I also don't think this'll be helpful to you - certainly not yet.
EDIT - I'd go for a Strut (tower) brace first of all.

Quoting: FUBAR
Control Arms

These look more like traction bars. (?) Again, a tad overkill for your car at the moment.
EDIT - SFC's would be the first step . . .



Yeah both you and Graeme are probably right with the car as it is at the moment...  i'll leave the control arms for now, not sure about the wonderbar though, will see what it goes for...
It's the time that we kill that keeps us alive...

Roadkill

#605
May 30, 2006, 11:16:08 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
No they are the rear arms that hold the axle in place, same as on little mouse


I didn't think these were standard on Third Gens ?

EDIT.  Sorry, Wasn't looking at them right.

Tubular ones would be better anyway . . .

Roadkill

#606
May 30, 2006, 11:21:11 AM
Control Arms :

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/lower_control_arms\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/lower_control_arms

Panhard Arms :

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/panhard__bars\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/panhard__bars

Wonder Bar and Strut braces :

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/strut_tower___steering_braces\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/strut_tower___steering_braces



EDIT : Note prices.  Wonder bar is $60 = £35 !!!  Barrrrgain !

55starchief

#607
May 30, 2006, 11:26:21 AM
Quoting: Roadkill
EDIT. Sorry, Wasn't looking at them right.


:n00b:


FUBAR

#608
May 30, 2006, 11:27:56 AM
Yeah and the one there is at £31 already...  fair doos,

problem with the Strut Braces is nobody does one to fit the LG4 engined cars (remember as far as angines are concerned mines an '86 because nowhere considers the '87 Cars to have ever had the Carb engines even though they did!

Rocky can custom make one tho so if I want one i'll go to him.
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55starchief

#609
May 30, 2006, 11:28:40 AM
You can also find most of that on BMR's website

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-suspension.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-suspension.htm

Roadkill

#610
May 30, 2006, 11:58:31 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
You can also find most of that on BMR's website

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-suspension.htm
\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-suspension.htm


$hit !

I see myself spending some money, there.

FUBAR

#611
May 30, 2006, 12:05:18 PM
yeah or there's

http://www.spohn.net/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.spohn.net/

I COULD spend a fortune on there!
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philoldsmobile

#612
May 30, 2006, 05:30:46 PM
for normal road cars, tubular arms are rather an overkill.. you'd get better results by boxing the arms you have (works very well), and spending the money on a decent spring / shock package, and the most important mod of all, sub frame connecters..

My friend Kat in the US (guy with the black iroc) worked for spohn for a while.. good stuff, but the guy doesn't give anoyone discount - even employees!!

FUBAR

#613
June 20, 2006, 09:00:49 AM
http://www.dallasexportsales.com/RA334.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.dallasexportsales.com/RA334.htm

Mainly posted for Link Storage...  but Hmm...
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55starchief

#614
June 20, 2006, 09:04:58 AM
This is the other company mate

http://www.speedomotive.com/ps-26-8-305-to-340-cid-stroker-crank-kit.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.speedomotive.com/ps-26-8-305-to-340-cid-stroker-crank-kit.aspx

And they have better comp ratios than the 9.4-1 of the first link

FUBAR

#615
June 20, 2006, 09:10:52 AM
Hmm yeah that gives you more options (Note still just window shopping!) ticked all the boxes except the Gasket set and the Holley Carb & it comes too $1148

Balancing tolerance is better too, 1/2g rather than 2g on the 1st link
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Jamieg285

#616
June 20, 2006, 09:15:17 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
This is the other company mate

http://www.speedomotive.com/ps-26-8-305-to-340-cid-stroker-crank-kit.aspx\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http://www.speedomotive.com/ps-26-8-305-to-340-cid-stroker-crank-kit.aspx

And they have better comp ratios than the 9.4-1 of the first link



Mmmm, might be tempted with that for the new car I get.

FUBAR

#617
June 20, 2006, 09:58:09 AM
Just out of interest, Stroking an engine moves the Power & Tq down the RPM Range, would this require alterations to the Transmission with regards to Gear Shift Points, Torque Converter Stall

I also assume you'd have to create a new Lower Redline too...
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Jamieg285

#618
June 20, 2006, 10:18:46 AM
Quoting: FUBAR
Just out of interest, Stroking an engine moves the Power & Tq down the RPM Range, would this require alterations to the Transmission with regards to Gear Shift Points, Torque Converter Stall


In an ideal world yes, you'd 'tune' everything to be perfect.  In reality, all your current stuff should be fine. It won't be too different from the current set-up.

Quoting: FUBAR
I also assume you'd have to create a new Lower Redline too...


Depends on what you're red-line is now.  ASAIK, the red-line will be based more on your top end hardware (springs/valves etc) than the bottom end.  Again, in reality, I can't see it being much, if at all different.

55starchief

#619
June 20, 2006, 11:02:17 AM
Stroking normaly gives a wider torque curve. Its torque that moves you off the line hence the reason that a diesle car will pull better than a petrol. Hvae a play with the desktop dyno and you should see the curves change as you change the CI.

Redline is a false thing on modified engines. If you make peak power at 3500 why go to the redline at 5500? you wont gain anything and you can shift quicker

Jamieg285

#620
June 20, 2006, 11:28:08 AM
You're talking about shift points, which is different to danger points. You could go over the peak power in top gear, but would still need to know when you are in danger of blowing something.

Roadkill

#621
June 20, 2006, 11:29:36 AM
Be a Man - Buy a Manual 'Box.

55starchief

#622
June 20, 2006, 11:32:57 AM
Quoting: Jamieg285
You're talking about shift points, which is different to danger points. You could go over the peak power in top gear, but would still need to know when you are in danger of blowing something.


Most people think the most power is at the redline hence the reason people drive until they hit it

Roadkill

#623
June 20, 2006, 11:41:00 AM
Quoting: 55starchief
Most 's think the most power is at the redline hence the reason 's drive until they hit it


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Rocky

#624
June 20, 2006, 01:27:17 PM
Hatch motors on a 90 on are different you cant get the rebuild kits for them anymore but you can for earlier models,
The Wonderbar is a TDS jobbie only one on the market that uses 3 bolt system.Spohns wonder bars dont always fit need to file them out sometimes.
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