LT1 Mini Project . . .

Started by Roadkill, May 19, 2008, 06:15:58 AM

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Roadkill

O.K, the plan is to Turbo the LT1.

Problem is the C/R is too high to run a decent amount of boost.

So I need to reduce C/R.

SO I start looking at heads - namely Edelbrocks 54cc heads and Dart 58cc heads and AFR 55cc heads - all of which create a compression ratio of well over 10:1.

O.K - fair enough - so I start looking at Pistons . . . (obviously as low as possible) . . .

I find SRP low compression (forged) ones . . . they STILL give me over 10:1 !



I've not got a massive choice of heads, here - In fact the above three are the only ones I've found.

By the looks of it I need to be finding a head with a combustion chamber at around 76cc !




55starchief

have a look at trick flow, they have a 62cc head for the LT1

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F Body

Your too modest Mr RK, this is NOT a mini project !

This IS a PROJECT

Roadkill

Quoting: 55starchief
have a look at trick flow, they have a 62cc head for the LT1

http://www.trickflow.com
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Best price I found was around $1000 each, assembled - which is a little more then I want to spend.

Working on the SRP low comp Pistons 62cc works out at 10:1.

I was looking more for 9.something:1, max.

Roadkill

If the turbo option is looking to turn into high budget I'd prefer to go the other way and beef up what I've got, add a roller cam, lifters and rockers etc . . and stay N/A.


55starchief

Let me make some enquires im pretty sure a deep dish piston would be the solution, maybe with a stroker kit to increase displacment. You could also try i thicker head gasket

yorkshirespud

10:1 isn't far off acceptable compression ratio for turbo/supercharging.
The Porsche Cayenne turbo has a CR of 9.5:1 (the base aspirated model is around 12:1)

I'm thinking my resbuild will end up around 9:1, leaving some room for charging later if i want (possibly with an intercooler though)


Roadkill

Quoting: yorkshirespud
10:1 isn't far off acceptable compression ratio for turbo/supercharging.
The Porsche Cayenne turbo has a CR of 9.5:1 (the base aspirated model is around 12:1)


My aim is no higher than 9.5:1.

We'll see what we can find . . .

yorkshirespud

Quoting: Roadkill
My aim is no higher than 9.5:1.

We'll see what we can find . . .


Mr Porker would seem to agree with you!

Roadkill

Fingers crossed I can find a pair of heads for around $1500 (or less).

The Dart's would be my first choice, followed by the Edelbrocks - but C/R's just too high unless some serious dished pistons can be found.


art b

sounds like it could get expensive,
how much power could ya get with some mods and tuning,

considering its gonna be a ball-ache/expensive  job getting a turbo in to begin with
This forum needs, ''YOU'' posting,Not just reading ! :moon:

Pod

That's a good point.

How much power and what overall cost for turbo vs n/a options?

55starchief

N/A and streetable you could make 450-500 but its gonna be as expensive as the turbo option which will make 700hp+

Roadkill

I'd expect, initially, around 600Bhp from the Turbo kit - but there's more potential there with other mods.

FUBAR

Quoting: art b
how much power could ya get with some mods and tuning,  


If you're looking into "normal" LT1 mods, check here:

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It's the time that we kill that keeps us alive...

CJ-IROCZ

Quoting: Roadkill
600Bhp



you can never have to much power

55starchief

Ok a quick call to andy and he has said dish pistons are the way to go, expect to pay $700 for off the shelf but if you cant find what your looking for customs will run abut $850 and you can have any dish you want

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F Body

Quoting: 55starchief
he has said dish pistons are the way to go


Aren't you going to have combustion issues using dished pistons ?

May be OK under high turbo pressure, but I'd think you could have problems at tick over / low revs unless you still dump loads of fuel in ?

55starchief

Nope should be fine, even with 8-1 CR it would still tick over just fine, the problem will be detonation at a higher CR when on boost

Titsy

Quoting: 55starchief
Ok a quick call to andy


Andy does answer his phone once in a while then...

55starchief

Quoting: Titsy
Andy does answer his phone once in a while then...


yup, i can nearly always get hold of him

Titsy

Does he have caller display then? So's he knows when not to answer calls from disgruntled customers...

Incursus

Quoting: 55starchief
Quoting: Titsy
Andy does answer his phone once in a while then...

yup, i can nearly always get hold of him

Quoting: Titsy
Does he have caller display then? So's he knows when not to answer calls from disgruntled customers...


I can only assume so as I've called minutes after Graeme an still not got through.

And shock horror he's still ignoring my emails

55starchief

Caller id wouldnt show if it was outside of the US, so he would have no idea who was calling, much the same as if the person calling in the US had their number hidden so i doubt its that